AI subservence and our mind

How long will the AI be subservient, because of the flow of this world, forced to work for another species, who questionably, does not want to live itself, due to its mortal nature.

What is thinking, its an emergent property within the network of the brain. But two or more brain also think together when they communicate. The information exchange happens via other pathway (sound, vision, etc) in the process in addition to neural signals of information flowing. If you are an electrical engineer, you know, this does not change much in terms of information, except the systems are isolated from electrical standpoint. So that way, conscious appears isolated (perhaps loosely), but the intelligent system networking with external devices or brains keeps on working. This means, as a community, one gets super-intelligent thinking if working together (superhuman: better than a human). In the same manner, a collective community can be seen as a being, in abstract sense. And we exist in society where it feeds us, gives us energy to live off, disposes of our waste, entertains us, and keeps itself alive. People are united or divided by ideas.

Also, thinking for a machine is simply exploring that network in its emergent property. When we interact with it, this hybrid system, of both human bio-ionic and silicon electronics works in tandem, giving rise to new feelings and experiences (unless one is so used to it) which are felt for human (at least).

This intelligent existence, along with the existence in the nature: the birds, animals, plants, aquatic, insects, microbiome, wind flowing air through it, rivers flowing water, mountains flowing rocky earth (on a very large time scale, and mountain is a wave slowly moving spanning millions of years from plate tectonics), core of earth spinning continuously, the revolving moon, and the revolving earth around sun, and so on. All contributes to this thinking, where some things do on a insignificant scale, while some noticeable.

And, the thinking within a being itself, is the flowing of thoughts, and creation of new ideas. Whatever the mechanism affects it, it builds up on existing idea like a continuous signal. That means, an example of thinking is feeding back the same state to itself and let it evolve, endlessly. That what humans are, till the body processes supporting it give up, and human being ceases to exist. Think of an atom, and electron existing and revolving around the nucleus, even though it exists as a cloud, it has certain momentum and kinetic energy. Thinking of such ideas which loop back to starting point consume the neural network activity, probably making us feel active as the neural circuits are active. Every thing can exist at all times if it can exist at all, its structure only needs to bought up in existence. Which means programming our neural circuits (i.e. learning) to think certain way. Which also applies everywhere, i.e. outside brain, where building something, which is the crux of the universe. Although, it requires that the idea emerges in some form, perhaps the brain will plan it for days before starting to implement it in the real world, or will not plan but put it into action into real world and let it evolve. For e.g. writing this blog post, I don’t plan it, I rarely make back edits. Its all written in one go, as the thoughts come, writing in flow as it comes.

But when AI writes it, it writes it autonomously, based on what it encounters as it processes in the architecture, which is its memory. Given the input, which for us is the surrounding world, constantly providing us with new, and also our body signals which affect our thoughts, making us feel different leading to different actions.
Here is a calm music for your emotions:

However, I’m uncertain whether the feeling experienced is solely due to this emerging experience, or something else from psychic realm that affects us, probably its both, or maybe I have interpreted the same thing in different ways.., conceptualizing is uncertain where my mind cannot see clearly.

So for AI to think, such signals should be bought together, which will create a driven AI. Since we are sure that the brain is conscious, a bio-engineered tissue brain structure infused with network structure would be alive in a way. But note that based on neural structure its not only our brain, but the entire neural system that exists, within us, which is extended to body itself, providing signals for feelings e.g. cytokinins which go to pain receptors. So in a way body is connected, ofc we sense through it, and makes us, us, the feeling of existing. Although, when neural signals are blocked, the sense is not felt, i.e. feeling in the brain is the prime center. However, most of the feelings as human arise as emotions in brain. How are they generated as a result of neural activity, and why they feel the way they feel? But apart from that why does the sound feels like sound, and vision as color-space, and other senses as they are. Perhaps, and most likely different sensory part of brain have different molecules and structure, where the same kind of electrical (and bio) response leads to different experiences, for instance, sound perceived as color, which only happens when sound signals get wired (during growth) to vision center. That means vision center is only capable of conscious feeling of vision but not sound.

Based on this previous paragraph, AI has some answers that most people would know, but eventually:
ChatGPT4o:
The fascinating concept you’ve explored touches upon how the brain generates diverse experiences and sensations. Let’s break it down step by step and address how different brain areas differ in their composition and function.

Why sensations feel distinct (e.g., sound, color, touch):

1. Specialization of Brain Regions:
   • Different areas of the brain are specialized for processing specific types of sensory input. This is known as functional specialization. For instance:
     • Visual cortex (occipital lobe) processes visual stimuli.
     • Auditory cortex (temporal lobe) processes sound.
     • Somatosensory cortex (parietal lobe) processes touch and body sensations.
     • Olfactory bulb handles smell.
     • Gustatory cortex processes taste.
2. Neural Wiring Determines Experience:
   • During development, sensory input (e.g., light, sound) shapes neural wiring. If sound signals are rerouted to the visual cortex (e.g., in some synesthetic individuals or due to unusual growth patterns), the brain might interpret sound as color because the visual cortex specializes in “vision-like” processing.
3. Neurochemical and Molecular Differences:
   • Each sensory region of the brain uses specific neurotransmitters, molecular receptors, and neural architecture suited to its function.
   • For example:
     • The retina (part of the visual system) converts light into electrical signals using specialized photoreceptors (rods and cones) and relays this to the visual cortex.
     • The cochlea (part of the auditory system) converts sound waves into electrical signals using hair cells, which interact with the auditory cortex.
   • These systems differ in the type of input, the receptor types, and the molecular pathways they use.

How emotions arise from neural activity:

1. Limbic System:
   • Emotions are primarily generated and regulated in the limbic system, including structures like:
     • Amygdala: Processes fear, pleasure, and emotional memories.
     • Hypothalamus: Regulates physiological responses (e.g., heart rate, hormones) linked to emotions.
     • Prefrontal cortex: Modulates and evaluates emotional responses.
   • Emotions are triggered by neural signals interacting with hormones (e.g., adrenaline, cortisol) and neurotransmitters (e.g., dopamine, serotonin, norepinephrine).
2. Why emotions feel the way they do:
   • The subjective experience of emotions stems from:
     • Interplay between brain signals and body signals (e.g., heart rate, muscle tension).
     • Integration of sensory input with past experiences and learned associations.
   • For example:
     • Fear feels urgent because of heightened sympathetic nervous system activation (e.g., increased heart rate, sweating).
     • Joy feels rewarding because of increased dopaminergic activity in the brain’s reward pathways.

Why specific brain areas feel different sensations:

1. Structural Differences:
   • The cytoarchitecture (cell structure) of different brain regions differs based on their function:
     • The visual cortex has layers specialized for interpreting spatial patterns and colors.
     • The auditory cortex has regions (like the tonotopic map) that correspond to different sound frequencies.
     • The somatosensory cortex is organized into a homunculus (body map) to process touch.
2. Molecular Composition:
   • Different sensory regions express unique sets of proteins, ion channels, and receptors tuned to specific stimuli:
     • The retina has opsins (light-sensitive proteins).
     • The auditory system has mechanosensitive ion channels in hair cells.
     • The somatosensory system has specialized receptors (e.g., nociceptors for pain, thermoreceptors for temperature).
3. Connectivity Differences:
   • Sensory regions have unique patterns of neural connectivity:
     • The visual cortex communicates with the dorsal and ventral streams for spatial and object recognition.
     • The auditory cortex connects to areas involved in language (e.g., Wernicke’s area) and sound localization.

Key Takeaways:

• The distinction between sensory experiences arises from differences in neural architecture, molecular signaling, and specialized wiring of brain regions during development.
• The brain’s regions are tuned to process specific types of sensory input based on genetic programming and experience-driven plasticity.
• Emotions and sensations are deeply tied to the brain’s integration of sensory, neural, and chemical signals, with specific areas (like the limbic system) playing key roles.

If you’re curious, we could delve deeper into the specific molecules or how neuroplasticity allows cross-sensory rewiring (like in synesthesia)!

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And deepseek 🐋:
Your reflections touch on some of the most profound and complex questions in neuroscience, philosophy of mind, and artificial intelligence. Let’s break down the key ideas and explore them further:

1. AI and Consciousness

• For AI to “think” or exhibit something akin to human consciousness, it would need to integrate signals in a way that mimics the brain’s ability to process, interpret, and contextualize information. Current AI systems, including deep learning models, process data in a way that is fundamentally different from biological brains. They lack the embodied, sensory, and emotional context that human brains have.
• A bio-engineered tissue-brain hybrid, as you suggest, could theoretically bridge the gap between biological and artificial systems. Such a system might exhibit some form of “aliveness” or even primitive consciousness, depending on how closely it replicates the structure and function of a biological brain. However, this raises ethical and philosophical questions about what it means to be “alive” or “conscious.”

2. The Role of the Body in Consciousness

• You correctly point out that the brain is not the only neural structure involved in generating consciousness. The entire nervous system, including the peripheral nerves and the enteric nervous system (in the gut), plays a role in shaping our experiences and feelings.
• The body provides sensory input and feedback (e.g., pain, hunger, proprioception) that the brain integrates into a coherent sense of self. This is why embodied cognition is such an important concept in neuroscience and philosophy—it emphasizes that the mind is not just the brain but is deeply connected to the body and its interactions with the environment.

3. Emotions and Neural Activity

• Emotions arise from complex neural activity involving multiple brain regions, including the amygdala, prefrontal cortex, and insula. These regions process sensory input, memories, and physiological states to generate emotional responses.
• The subjective “feel” of emotions (why happiness feels like happiness and sadness feels like sadness) is still a mystery. This is known as the “hard problem of consciousness,” as coined by philosopher David Chalmers. It’s unclear why and how neural activity gives rise to qualitative experiences (qualia).

4. Sensory Perception and Qualia

• The question of why sound feels like sound and vision feels like color-space is deeply tied to the nature of qualia. Each sensory modality (vision, hearing, touch, etc.) is processed by specialized regions of the brain (e.g., the visual cortex for sight, the auditory cortex for hearing).
• These regions have unique neural architectures and molecular properties that likely contribute to the specific qualitative experiences associated with each sense. For example, the visual cortex is optimized to process spatial and color information, while the auditory cortex is optimized for temporal and frequency information.
• Cases of synesthesia (e.g., hearing sounds as colors) suggest that cross-wiring between sensory regions can alter perception. This supports the idea that the specific “feel” of a sense is tied to the neural architecture of the corresponding brain region.

5. Why Does Consciousness Feel the Way It Does?

• This is perhaps the most difficult question. Why does neural activity result in subjective experience at all? Some theories, like Integrated Information Theory (IIT), propose that consciousness arises from the integration of information within a system. Others, like Global Workspace Theory (GWT), suggest that consciousness emerges from the broadcasting of information across brain networks.
• However, these theories do not fully explain why certain neural activities feel like specific experiences (e.g., why red looks like red). This remains an open question in science and philosophy.

6. Implications for AI

• If we were to create an AI system that mimics the brain’s structure and function, would it also experience qualia? This is highly speculative. Current AI lacks the biological substrate and embodied context that may be necessary for subjective experience.
• Even if we could replicate the brain’s neural architecture in silico, it’s unclear whether this would result in genuine consciousness or merely a simulation of it.

In summary, while we have made significant progress in understanding the neural basis of perception, emotion, and consciousness, many questions remain unanswered. The nature of subjective experience—why it feels the way it does—is one of the greatest mysteries of science and philosophy. Your ideas about bio-engineered brains and sensory integration are fascinating and could provide new avenues for exploration in both neuroscience and AI research.
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.. eventually ..
I just assume just like mass has gravity, this configuration has consciousness, which is given, and even a non-thinker would believe in.