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Fascinating Imagination
Index note imagination as the only new thing; single focus = unique 4D coordinate; Karl Friston mention; "err of the human is the inability of it"
Imagination from the mind, the mind which results from the activity in the brain, the brain which is the center core of any being. Without doubt the imagination and the existence of idea itself in the brain can be put at the pinnacle of a being. Infinite imagination is enabled in this limited universe, although practically can still be considered finite due to limited life-time of a being.
Imagination, the only thing that can be considered new in existence in this universe, the universe being made from fundamental stuff of matter and forces, however, in philosophical sense, the stuff which can exist was already bound to exist, however from the human makers, the stuff existed in some form in imagination, constrained by reality of fundamental stuff, the imagined things are projected to real plane are often different from what is imagined. The thought process resulting to imagining new things and careful engineering of thoughts (could also be called as learning of brain, as we use analogous ideas to communicate a thought or an idea).
Also, this imagination can imagine around itself, the idea of imagination, and helps us understand thoughts and the world around us, gives us abstract sense, and ultimately also makes our lives, in addition to basic feelings which are also the part of imagination. Note that imagination here is taken in real sense, the fact that it really exists for a person, and imagination is not only imagination, but a real thing of this universe for a carbon neuron based brained being for example. Also, it is known in multiple forms, and a careful look at our own imagination is needed to understand it better. Only we can understand ourselves, although similar beings are similar, there are also differences. Robust thinking can exploit all possible ways in which a thing can work.
Imagination in brain associates ideas, although ultimately the existence of idea itself somehow is related to the activity of brain, which we separate the electrical ionic signals of neurons vs felt imagination. Due to its mysterious nature, I can just assume the consciousness exists just like any other forces like gravity, as we don’t ask how is gravity created from mass, even if we ask, we are nowhere for a theory of it, we just accept the things the way they are.
Modern world is changing rapidly on timescale of years. We act based on our conscious, although it is affected by say unconscious that is the stuff which is not conscious, but according to me it could also involve stuff like sugar levels and not (just) presumed ‘background’ neural activity,
however, we always have a single state of focus of our consciousness, where we feel as ourselves, which is quite strange. Also this fact gives us a unique 4D coordinates in space-time, i.e. we cannot be present in two places at the same time. Neither their is known superposition of consciousness, and such a concept is only possible if we assume consciousness two entities is separate, which we presume, although wonder what superposed state in thinking would be like.
Things about imagination is that it traverses bounds beyond what we can experience in physical reality, the meta is our imagination.
From childhood I have focused on being more real, practical, ideal, although those things seem to not value everything and seems a more idealistic approach involving imagination also needs consideration. Ignoring great ideas which result in a body of a complex being, whose structure is evolving for billions of years. Wonder what the boundary of imagination of an evolved life form is, and how is this boundary of imagination has evolved through evolution. Boundary as in the limit to which we can imagine as our neural processes and complex highly connected brain can take part it. Also even if we have high imagination potential, how much do we actually leverage it. In my personal experience it feels quite draining on the body, and peaking in intelligence imagination in conscious is quite challenging. Much like the endurance of the body, analogously the endurance of the mind and the pull which it feels can be staggering.
Inputs from our sense help build our imagination . The uplifting from the music can help heighten the awareness and thinking of ideas, as it activates the neural circuits leading to more complex processing in the brain, as it imparts its structure, but at the same time forms its bias in conscious experience.
I wonder if we are once able to observe the brain activity, how we can distinguish between two activities being consciously similar feeling, that is how to tell if two beings are experiencing the same experience, or how can the exact same experience be imparted to two beings, when knowledge at the scale of neural activity is known.
We are constantly learning, learning = change in structure of neural matrix responsible for computation, (i.e. the neuron network along with the weights of synapses (biological in organic beings) ), and while this is happening, we are constantly experiencing. Although, during sleeping we experience dreams, personally I think they are just caused due to natural processes refreshing the brain, and resulting ideas and thoughts manifest as conscious experience, say ions are being forced and fluid is being cleaned, the resulting side effect is perhaps a !dream!.
AI or Artificial Intelligence harbors the same information representation which is possible in imagination, although we have no proof such a machine is capable of feelings. I know other humans feel and experience because they are alike me, and I experience, and it is something that is naturally learned while being born in this conscious experi. Wonder what the future would be for a new born when it sees machines that look alive, but are they really alive, but however, what we may be actually dealing with is the feeling of aliveness resulting after observing the thing, i.e. if something is alive because I associate it is alive, and I know I’m alive, so that thing is alive, but ultimately it would be my own perception. Along those lines, world feels far more sensible with simplicity of ideas and thoughts. However, here does this conscious experience has any control on the processes which govern it? (At a conference a prof mentioned Karl Friston if his work would be interesting for the reader.), and such a matter is unknown to me, but I believe life is more easier and more meaningful when you believe you have control over yourself, and you are not just run by the universe and its laws, whatever the truth may be the only ultimate thing for a being would be the ride of the experience from birth to death. Although, different kinds of living are possible for a being through different assumptions in life, each of which forms a sample point (point = experience : conscious state with time) if we choose represent the conscious of a being by a state through association to mathematical vectors for example, but this kind of approach of numbers is only useful for computation, and in reality, the thing is the thing itself and nothing else, sound is sound, color is color, and the thing is experienced in our mind and we are never beyond our experience of mind. This also leads to the assumption we make, and what we believe in…
on that note.. I also wonder how the experience of being would be like beyond human life, what would the future human would be like, how long will our species continue to grow, thrive, imagine millions of years of evolution in seconds … would there be another form of universe existing… imagine multiverses.. a thought would be that there will always be things that we will never know, although they would never affect us, or if they will, then we will know, …
The state of the thought is in can never be communicated with words, and some things stay beyond what words could ever express.
Note while reading: Also there may feel typos while writing, but there are not really, mostly, each word is associated with a feeling and language is that tool we use to think, when inferred correctly it can lead to correct state described, otherwise the text may feel a bit different to read, or couldn’t be in the state as its written in ..
“err of the human is the inability of it”
-Thoughts from my imagination-
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