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Muscle fibers thread – idea
Index note spool-of-muscle actuators; electrostatic protein synthesizer tube; "ignore words like difficult"; core network + higher concepts
instead of buying motors, it would be better to have spools of fibres, woven into threads that behave like muscles, and after activating electric current, they would compress with certain force, Such soft actuators have bio-mimicking use in robotics applications, furthermore, length and strength can be adjusted to the requirements.
However, how to get such fibers? it doesn’t need to be exactly muscle cells, but similar protein structures that are essentially same functioning as muscles. However, its not a DIY local home work, that is why it has not been possible using macro techniques, as it requires the engineering at nanoscale. That immediately puts the idea into the hands of researchers, who are slow at progressing physical material reality, often expensive and hard to scale immediately. For such ideas to flourish, there would require a generalized protein printer which can manufacture such in mass scale, much like muscle growth from cells (or any protein) but in isolated form, ofc, as analogous to 3d printer. Current monopoly of materials is restricted to hands of few countries, and such limitation is limitation for growth and development, where fast paced countries grow rapidly, delving into other problems, and countries with lack of such access have loss of potential, which is lost into timelessness ,leading to poor experience of life, in one of the aspects of many.
Such a challenge, people remain helpless in what they could make, often seeing as requiring a magic machine to make something, looking as if people want to do simple stuff, from certain standpoint, but things are hard, and harder if they are uninteresting, or far in achieving.
Idea for such topics stem from imagining the reality one (I for e.g.) wants to live in. To be realistic in whatever I have learned and what the universal possibilities are. Thinking at a universal scale gets new technology and advancements, and mind needs to reach such levels of thinking to achieve normal growth. That is just motivation (mental energy) requirement of typical modern person. While for some growth seems fast, because they are too close to the thing that they are working on, details change fast. But for a distant observer, growth seems slow or non-existent, because they don’t notice the changes, for e.g. life in general, need to eat food, etc. and or mortality of life, or a mode of transport, or a new fuel etc. For a person who has never seen technology, one magic looks like another, eventually all looking like a generalized thing one lives in, with open imagination unrestricted to what is possible and not. You might have gotten people who are not so close in technology, asking for impossible things, but sometimes they are not possible immediately, but surely in future.
We want to make progress rapid, to satisfy the craving needs, desires, and dreams of the young for the existing lives and its experience. Much of growth is driven by what is existing, rather than a radical idea, which needs to appease to most to flourish. A human can achieve advance mind in thinking operating at the roots of laws of this universe. Laws, itself are a mystery in itself, as they are seen in certain ways, from sense of human perception thinking and intuition, which almost feels like a spirit existing taking different forms. But we might not be our feelings but the thing that feels that feeling. And sense of identity arises because of memories and our physical structure of existence.
So to achieve such an engineering feat, we would need control at that scale. But one thing is to feel comfortable as if you are scribbling, while one make that thing. It is necessary to avoid feeling it as difficult, ‘difficulty’ is just a feeling of thinking finding insurmountable barrier to do things. We don’t want things to be difficult which would lead to expensive things, and sometimes valuing that thing over say existence itself. We want the things to be simple, so they are efficiently executed. For e.g. to manufacture DNA proteins, the control we have is at the computer code level, which could be translated to an apparatus controlled through a mechanism which converts the sent memory into proteins.
For such a protein synthesizer system, it should take electrical data or memory, would be as charge, say on a silicon substrate, and immersed in a raw medium, such as mixture of base amino acids solution. And would attract the suitable amino acids based on its electrostatic profile, in a long chain, leading to amino acids forming together, An electrically equivalent mimicking of protein synthesizer molecule can be formed, so instead of structure, programmed electrostatic forces control the molecules through it, which is in turn forms long chains of amino acids. But how such an electrical equivalent can be made, perhaps it can be hollow cylindrical with spatio-temporally controlled electric field (voltage levels), that allow certain molecules to get trapped there (in certain nanoseconds time), and then it is pushed through the tube, with profile for next molecule, while it comes and naturally attaches to previous, forming a chain of biomolecule. Now this can align itself to whatever structures it stably would, and such a mixture can be used to further process into meaningful buildings of amino acids, which would do useful tasks.

Thing to understand biological structure that exists, is to look at the basis of it, which is mostly known, from atoms forming molecules, organic molecules (C,N,O,H,..), forming various structures. Such various structures function differently, and basic structures are of amino acids. Well, we look at things, i.e. much like words, each molecule has an embedding(from context of AI in LLMs, but it can be simply it is what it is as state, one must feel it to understand and process in their brain), and interacts in certain way to form other embedding, in all entire working processes in universe are like one big dictionary, which can be mapped from one to another given conditions of it, however, it in compressed form because science, or compact and only way for explaining all phenomenon, atoms describe molecules, and molecules describe ( systems of interacting multi-molecules). This idealogy helps people see things as they are seen, rather than looking at them through numbers, and not realising what it would mean, usually, it constrains the existence in 3d (+time, say as flowing matter, constantly in motion, in equilibrium in certain macroscopic sense). One might imagine molecules floating in air, and imagine their interactions and processes, but one must be able to imagine millions of them, and overall effective property. All universe is is energy (matter) in motion, forming different structures. Higher forms of our evolved beings or other advanced structures would be restricted to these forms. And imagination is the tool to imagine, ideate a way (a bridge towards it), and seemlessly execute it making it possible for ‘difficult’ looking ideas to become real. Technology existing thousand years from now would still work in the same universe that is in the present (or that is, the universe will be manipulated in a way based on our imagination to achieve a state 1000 years later, as if entire nature or universe would guide itself (i.e. flow) towards it). So to have the technology say from 1000 years from now, and rapidly making it, access and control at such fundamental level is the key.
Another thing is to ignore make the words like difficult, bizzare, weird which subconsciously make the thing look difficult than what it is. If you say someone its a difficult task, one might think in difficult terms and never do the task which could seemingly easy. Also, consciousness or the force we feel to do things, which is thinking, seems to work in a way which abstracts the lower level, only focusing on the higher level. For e.g. learning to walk involves learning how to place each foot and control, but once that network is trained, the learning force moves to higher forms of control, relying on that base structure as long as it can. Also, while learning basic concepts, they form the core of network in brain, and higher concepts are learned on top of it.
So one might imagine a core network of fundamental concepts, and train higher forms of concepts on top of it, which would lead to accurate and compact intelligence. For e.g. in image processing, basic blocks of neuron encode a basic convolution function, which encode the association functions which represent the spatial relationship between each convolution output leading to learning of a pattern. And relationships between patterns are learned to form higher features that are unexplored (at least by myself) and harder to imagine casually. And higher network structures process based on basis (of information) structures.
Human beings are just one forms of living structure, and dog is another form of living structure. Neural network and physical biology can be structured to form variety of life that exists today.
But to program the brain to see such things is another challenge that requires constant learning at the edge of knowledge, which is the frontiers. But it can give life meaning, if one searches for it (and researching is searching for those forgotten unexplored meanings again).
All life is one, all consciousness is one, we are merely different forms, with different imagination, and diverse senses.
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